The July 2016 issue of the Chinese Communist Party ideological journal Qiushi [Seeking Truth] published an Interview with Zhang Shunhong, Chairman of the World History Institute of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. The interview has been posted on the Qiudshi website. Zhang Shunhong, who earned his Master's and PhD in the UK, says that historical nihilists deny the achievements in the construction of socialism in the Soviet Union and in China, especially of China's opening and reform of the past three decades. These people focus on the dark side, belittling China's leaders, and ignore China's principles.He said we are for socialism and against capitalism. The great renaissance of the Chinese nation can only be achieved through socialism. If we abandon socialist and follow capitalism, China will break up.  Historical nihilism serves capitalist interest groups and includes the mistaken ideological trend of the "new liberalism" and "civil society" thinking aiming to divide the Chinese Communist Party and to replace it. Zhang Shunhong also warnspeople to be careful as some scholars both within and outside China are being used by capitalist interest groups. Some of them are unwitting, some got some money from these groups and so speak up for them. Media needs to help people become more aware of this problem so that they won't be used by these groups.